31 Miracles Music Challenge 


Charity: all right. Well, welcome back to loose leaf where you never know what you're going to get. Oh, no, Hillary right away.

We'll give her a minute.

So what'd you guys think of the song? I felt so bad that I couldn't find my list. I still haven't found my list. It's gone. Oh, that's sad for you. I had a nine minute song on there that I was like, looking for different. Like there must be an entire notebook missing with stuff in it, but what did you think of the song?

Hillary: I liked it. I thought it was interesting. I definitely got a picture in my head. Yeah, 

Charity: that's great. 

Kahle: Yeah, it painted a picture for me that I did not expect. No 

Charity: I 

Hillary: did. After I finished mine, I kept writing 

Charity: pretty long, a little longer. 

Kahle: I was like lightning in her fingers. 

Hillary: Well, it didn't all happen during this time.

It wasn't like excessively long after, but it was. Like I took some, I took notes this time that when I listened to it the first time. And so it's like, when I was done, I wanted to, to finish my thought. It's like, I already thought I knew. And so I think if I don't take notes, it's short. Sure. 

Charity: But the idea is to use it as a writing prompt.

So if we weren't constricted to that time, 

Hillary: there's a whole lot more story that could be happening with those. If there were fewer reads to pick up to the time, 

Charity: right. Well, I was going to say the next time we do this, do we want to just say you can give yourself like five extra minutes to wrap up your thought?

Because I felt like I would have loved to have written more.

No, I think I 

Hillary: could have written it down this line where it should 

Kahle: be finished. That's exactly what I was going to say, Hillary, like when you hit, when the song ends put a line, just keep going though. Like cool. Or put like in brackets, like the song ended here, but 

Charity: I had to finish my thought and figure out where my notes.

Oh, you don't have to just read it. I don't remember who went first, last time. So 

Hillary: I think we should have kale go first since his 

Charity: came first. Okay. Sounds good. Okay. Sure. 

Hillary: Actually I'm pretty sure I know. So 

Kahle: mine was called slipped away. Jeffrey brushed, crumbs onto the floor from the cover of his old textbook.

He peeled the pages open and there was the writing. The pen marks on the page spoke a story of years and years of history. It all started right here in these pages. He stared up through the window morning, sunlight glinted from the fingerprint covered glasses that separated him from her as she shuffled awkwardly around her car.

The back door slammed, open and shut again, almost before the backpack and luggage were safely in the car. She paused and looked at the house and Jeffrey imagined she was looking at him for a second. Then determinately, she sunk down in the driver's seat. The car started and a belt wind as mist built up around the car.

She backed up and Jeffrey realized now that he had stood up and was leaning on the table, watching her go. And then cold orange juice was being soaked up by his slipper.

Hillary: Wow. That is, that is a cool direction. Like serious. I that's it's cool because it's like, you can tell that you really felt the story, you felt the song and it created this story for you. Right? I think, 

Kahle: I think the song felt happier. But the really, like, I, I, I got into the really like, what is it? What is it, what am I trying to there is like a kind of knowing 

Charity: Kali tones and undertones that were, 

Kahle: and then I was like, you know, tackled with that too.

But the whole story that I, that I thought up in my head for these two characters, Um, was there's a happy, there's something happy at the end of this. Just not this little bit that I was able to write. Yeah. So Jeffrey is asleep, 

Charity: kinda got that 

Hillary: picture.

Charity: I was, I was wondering about their, their relationship, like. Who they are 

Kahle: dating since college, they sat next to each other and wrote to each other in this textbook. Okay. Everything had just become normal. And he had like, just zoned into everything was usual. She felt like she had been ignored and pretty much she had been for awhile.

And so she was like, Peace out, dude, 

Charity: buy your crumbs and your orange juice slippers.

That's really cool. That's really cool. It'll be interesting to see if you've finished the story where it would develop. 

Kahle: Yeah. I don't know that yet, but I have, I took like five notes. And so the second right through was like immediately, as soon as it started, I was like, okay. But then I was like, Oh crap.

There were a lot of pauses. And like what's the scene? What's the scene. Okay. 

Charity: That's 

Kahle: cool. Cool. Thank you for this. Thank you for the, 

Charity: I love though that you picked up on the undertones and that's where you went to first. I kind of felt those undertones as well, but then toward the end of very specific scene came to mind.

And once again, I didn't quite get there at just like my brain wants to build up to this, this thing. And so the part that I was visualizing is a very short paragraph and I might've written like. Two minutes more after. Cause I was like, well, at least have to get part of what I was envisioning into this and I did not title it.

Um, so here we go. Is it finally time? The short winged blue dragon asked the larger green dragon watching over him. She switched her tail and flexed her wings. You should wait longer, grow stronger. He bobbed his blue head around too excited to act like a noble dragon kin. But you promised I could try gliding today.

It's all I've thought about. Other than her Juul side. Do you still dream of her every night she searching one day she'll come when she does. I want to be able to show her what I've become. I fear. If you learn to fly than to travel through the realm, you will run to her. I promised I wouldn't, but I can feel the pull.

She's still a part of me maybe more now than when I was human. Yes. Another green dragon. This one, also a juvenile from the same hatching. Let him glide my Juul, Elvin Juul side and resignation. Technically. I'm your elder now. As if he winked at her and puffed out his chest, you are still mine. He'll be fine.

Let the boy go. They'll have to do it sooner or later. The young link charged toward the edge of the cliff before they could change their minds. He threw himself into the abyss, spreading his wings to catch the updraft of air. For a moment. He feared his weight would drag him down to the earth, but then his wings filled and he soared forward riding the current.

It lifted him higher. He could sense the subtle changes as it dipped and Rose. The young dragon pulled his wings into his body, sending him into a dive. He spun with joy several times before unfurling them and rising. Once again. Euphoria pure and overwhelming warmed his soul at last, he was truly free.

Hillary: Oh, random question. Does this dragon mythology line up with the way your dragon story? Yes. Yes, that's cool. Yes. 

Charity: So there's, there's some things in there that could be spoilers. So I didn't name a couple of characters, 

Kahle: I guess some like serious Pern. 

Charity: Well, it's funny you say that because, uh, the first book in the series, when it came out way back in 2013, some of the people said it reminded them of the Dragonriders of Pern.

I take that as a compliment. Mine are not as technical, but 

Kahle: the other two things. That it reminded me of first, the funny one. And then the interesting one. When, when you read Elvin, I immediately thought of the, the chipmunks.

Oh yeah. But, uh, the inter the more interesting one, I think. Was, have you ever read Jonathan Livingston? Seagull? I 

Charity: haven't actually, 

Kahle: that is a really good book to read for descriptions of flying. Oh, cool. Um, and like, I, I thought of a lot of that. The book is all about Jonathan Livingston. Seagull is a seagull and he, are you familiar with the story at all?


Charity: I'm ashamed to admit that because I've heard the name, but no clue. 

Hillary: I've heard the name as well. 

Kahle: So the way that it was a story that my dad read when he was younger and my grandpa  really liked it. And it's kind of about, I mean, essentially it's about, uh, Like eternal progression. Cool. Uh, and Jonathan Livingston, seagull becoming so fast in his dive, uh, like all the other birds were like, Oh, we don't fly like that anymore.

We just get food from people and he's like, no, I'm going to go out and fly. And, uh, so it's interesting if you want to borrow it, I think I've got a copy. So that'd be cool. Yeah, that's cool. It's a very quick read too. It's really 

Charity: that's even better. I have set a goal to try to read one book a month. I know that sounds horrible, but I have so much writing to do that.

I had to like, because I will escape into a book and it would be nice to read a book that maybe I can learn something from and I get a feel for those good descriptions. Hmm. Cool. Cool. Cool. All right, Hillary. 

Hillary: All right, here we go. So I had the same kind of feeling though with the story where it had this kind of a heaviness to it.

Um, and honestly my first thought was what the skyline looked like. And so that was kind of cool. I could, I could see the sky in this, whatever was happening. And, um, there were several points where it gets happier, but, um, The overtone of it. It always, it has this, I guess you said undertones. I dunno. It just had this heaviness to it.

That took me to where we are. Okay. The processional marched forward, the sky, a dusky gray, the sun was gone and fit the mood of the woman who led the stream of soldiers. They placed the man down before her and she stared her husband lay silent dead before her. He'd promise never to leaving it there. He lay her life spinning around her.

The soldiers stood waiting for her command, but she couldn't do it. She couldn't leave him slowly. She fell to her knees and one by one, the soldiers raised an arm and disappeared into the night sky. A tear fell to her cheek. She hadn't even been able to give him the command of honor and death. She couldn't do anything to complete the passing.

She sobbed a silent cry that stuck in her throat and dropped her head to her and dropped her head to his chest. She couldn't hear it, but her heartbeat, her heartbeat reached for his beating between them as if it could find him and recreate the sound of life in his chest. She laid there as darkness fell heavy around her in the star spun time, moved as life moved around the barrier of time moved.

There should be a comma as life moved around the barrier of the stars. She was alone with her husband. With she was alone with her husband. And if her heart could hold him, they could stay there together forever. If she could be strong enough for both of them, she didn't realize it until the hand touched her shoulder, but someone had stepped within the barrier.

Her husband's captain he'd returned and the woman's fingers clutched at her husband's chest, but she could feel the weakening of her body and she knew she wasn't strong enough. With a sad smile. The captain held out his hand and her husband lifted from the ground. The stars still swirled in a cloth of golden strings around them.

They gathered to her husband like his body was calling to them. They wrapped him in tendrils of gold until he was almost completely covered. Her heart clenched as he was cocooned in the honor of the stars. And before she could breathe, they melted dissolving him into the light of the sky. The stars vanishing in a mist of golden clouds.

No, she cried out for what she really wanted to know was why, why was he gone? The captain looked down at her. Oh, right in there somewhere is where my time limit.

Um, The captain looked down at her, you know, that it must be, you know, that you cannot hold him forever. There is a world waiting for you, her mouth worked, but the sound form tears instead. The captain reached for her again, this time to help her step through the barrier. Wait, she clutched at her chest.

Wait, I need to leave something for him. With tears on her fingertips. She cried out to God and felt her heart release from her body. She removed just a piece and raised it to the stars. The song of her tears called to them. And like they had for her husband, they came wrapping her heart in gold until it disintegrated into the sky.

Why the captain asked, why would you do that? It was his. Now he can be holding the next life. And I would never have been whole again, without him. The captain reached out his hand this time in silence. She took it this time. She would not ask why she didn't want to know. She simply followed him beyond the barrier.

She had done what she could for his love, or his honor for him. 

Charity: I just love that there are so many questions about this world and what's happening. I want you to write the whole 

Hillary: story. Really good. Yeah. You know, that's a good thing. 

Charity: That's a gift. Yeah.

Thank you. And you've got that heavy, like you said, I mean, and that's kind of the obvious, but you also have these bits of light, the gold of the stars wrapping his body and you know, even her heart, there's a heaviness, but then there's also that hopeful light and the rising motion. So, 

Hillary: and that's kind of what I was feeling, honestly, um, that whole, it seemed to flow that way of several times where you'd have that really deep music and then it would lighten.

And that's where I was kind of seeing this, the stars just like spinning around this couple and things are happening out there, you know, life is going on outside of them. And she's just stuck there in this, um, within the barrier with this man and 

Charity: yeah, someone had to come and get her. Yeah. Somebody I like, and I don't know if, what I was seeing as you were reading was the same as you were seeing, but I'm sure not even 

Hillary: as I was reading it, I'm like that didn't come across.

If I was editing this a lot more happening, but 

Charity: I saw some cool images, you know, I put my side twist on it and I was like, Oh, Oh 

Kahle: yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't tell. I felt like serious crossover, like scifi fantasy. Oh my gosh. It was very cool. 

Charity: It would 

Hillary: have been more fantasy. Had I gotten any further because I just, I can't do sex.

I don't, I don't know where to go with it. So it's yeah, it would have been just a more magical element of it. Yeah. That's funny. 

Charity: Thanks guys. I actually really liked this challenge. So Hillary, you get to pick the song for February. Now you have a most 

Hillary: scared. Okay. That's good. 

Charity: Well, do we want to talk about goals?

Did this energize you kale to write? 

Kahle: Um, yes. I like these challenges. They helped me. A lot. Uh, I wanted to say one thing about, about yours, Hillary. It reminds me I need to find it and send it to you. But there is a song that I sang in college that was a solo tenor piece. About it's in German. It's about a soldier, um, waking up on the battlefield and looking around and at all the ruin around him and like intense emotion of that song.

I was like, yeah, very, very feeling it in. It started playing in my head. I was like, dun dun, dun dun duh.

It's not, it's not a perfect match, but 

Charity: it's. 

Kahle: Yeah. So cool.

All right. Goals, you were saying charity. 

Charity: Okay. So. I was actually reading something today, talking about new year's resolutions. And I don't know if this came up in part of our conversation, Hillary, uh, people saying that they don't make resolutions and I don't, I haven't, for years, I've always set goals, but I was reading something that said something to the effect that you don't need, resolutions or goals.

If you have a plan. Um, and I really liked that. I liked that word of, I have a plan. And so in, in my planner I have for the week, I've put three small goals for the day. And so it's helping me to, to work my plan basically by, by seeing it written down. And so for the last two days, it's write something. And I know that's vague.

It is not a specific goal, a smart goal. That's supposed to be specific, but to get started again, I figured if I sit down and write 200 words, then I can say I succeeded today. And as I build my self-esteem back up that, Hey, I can do this, then I can start being more specific. So my goal for the next week is to continue doing that.

I have a writing goal. I have a self-care goal where. It's either exercise or it's, um, mindful meditation or something. That's just for me to help me kind of calm down. Cause my brain is always jumping all over the place and I need things to help me focus. So I'm one of those. And then I have a goal for, um, some things that I do in the community.

Just because I've avoided it for a long time. Thanks to COVID. It was a good excuse. And now I'm like, okay, I need to get back to living my life amongst other people. And so that's, that's what I'm doing. And I know that was very vague that didn't tell you anything, but that's what I'm doing. 

Hillary: Told me a ton.

I think that's awesome. I don't know. I think it's a good plan. It's a good way to help, uh, get moving forward and yeah. Um, I, I don't know about you kale, but, um, I feel, I do feel similarly to charity. We had, uh, we did have a little random conversation midweek this week where we talked about some of that kind of stuff.

Basically. I don't, I don't really do resolutions either. I don't even know that I really do goals. I basically feel like they're always the same. I mean, what I decided to do this year is basically the same things I've been working on for a while. It's just basically self-improvement and, um, I F I said, uh, at one point I basically, I think as we get older, I hate talking like that.

As we get older, we start to kind of figure out who we are and what it is that we want to do. And those, so it's not like I have this new resolution every year. It's like, I already know what I want to do. So I'm just going to keep working on this and keep trying to progress those things. And pretty much it is right.

More right. Smarter. Right. Better. And, um, be healthy. Those are my goals. 

Charity: How about you? Kale? You can be vague. We're very vague. We're like, we're going to be better people.

Kahle: That's very, so I think I talked about it a little bit last week. With, um, saying I will, instead of, I want to do stuff. Um, and so I made progress with that this week on the board game that I talked about last week, um, this weekend Sydney and I finished doing it, like making all the pieces for it. And then I made all the cards that matched the pieces.

And I started making player cards and through the process, I've been like coming up with new mechanics for the game and like getting it to where it is play testable. Oh, 

Charity: that's excitable. 

Kahle: I will get this thing play testable. I think a lazy goal is before my birthday in March, but I think by Valentine's day I could have like the first play test.

And like, you know, there'll be hundreds and hundreds of playtests before it's ready to go, but I want to get there to sit down with a couple of people and be like, all right, let's wreck this thing. Let's break it to pieces and get it to work. Um, so where that relates to writing and why I'm bringing it up here is, um, if you've played or heard of betrayal at house on the Hill, Um, it's, it's a game where you, you get you're.

What are they called? I can't remember were the points, but as you go through these points, go up that increase the chance of the hunt being triggered. Okay. Haunted mansion that you're exploring. And the hunt means whoever triggers the hunt takes one book and then the other players take another book and it says, all right, you're the bad guy now for the person that, that triggered the hunt or.

You play the bad guy, but you also play yourself trying to succeed. So like, um, there are with the expansion to that board game, there are 100 different hunts and they were all written by like multiple different people. Well, this game that I'm making will trigger a quest. Cool. And so I wouldn't going to be writing three or four quests.

For the players to go through. So it'll be instructional. It will also be creative as like here's the board game world that we're playing in. And so here's, you know, the places that you've discovered, like if you haven't discovered this town, find its tile and place it over here, whatever, but blah, blah, blah, is happening in this town and you need to go figure it out or, um, Yeah.

So trying to try and make some original stuff with that. Um, and create some essentially what is copy, but story copy. 

Charity: Yeah. It's exciting though. That's very cool,

Kahle: but it's something I love. So it's really motivating. Um, yeah. Cool. 

Charity: Good for you. Those are big steps. 

Kahle: Yeah. It's it's 

Hillary: happening and I love it. You get to do it with Sydney. That's going to that's really fun.

Charity: Uh, so anything else you guys want to talk about this week before we sign off? Um, 

Kahle: I kind of wanted to move something.

Hillary: No, I'm just writing and writing and writing like a crazy person. So I've, I'm finalizing stuff tonight and should be done with my cozy mystery, get that turned in this week. Um, it was supposed to be done on the first didn't quite make that, so I did get my draft done. Um, so I'm cleaning that, getting that out.

So yeah. That's all I got just like a crazy person. 

Charity: It's okay, I'll go for it. What, what did you want to talk about? You got 10 minutes. 

Kahle: I got an app last year called Libby and, uh, it's the same. It's it's by the same people who make overdrive. It's an audio book and ebook. Uh, and you, you register for the app with your library card.

If your library participates in it. Okay. I'm not sure about individual memberships. It seems to be a institution based thing. Maybe overdrive is more geared toward individuals. I haven't looked 

Hillary: yet. I was thinking overdrive was for libraries as well. Isn't 

Kahle: it? Well, okay. It is, I guess, I guess Libby's just the iPhone version or the something version of it.

Huh? But 

Hillary: isn't living like Olivia or Libby, like library, 

Kahle: like library two B's and a Y L I B B Y. I mean the, the icon is like pretty cute. It's it's it looks like a little head in a book. Oh, cute. Um, but I was looking through that and I realized that I read 32 books, 32 audio books last year. Oh, nice. And then I read one book, which seriously, it is hard for me to read a book, but at work I have so much time to listen and it was just, I mean, it felt really good to be like, Hey.

I am actually reading. Like I am actually consuming more than just podcasts with my life,

not to knock on podcasts because they got me through college.

Charity: See if, let me pull it up. If any of them, I just listened to Kings warrior. Bye. It looks like maybe Janell, Smit. Um, oops, sorry. So don't play, but the narrator, he's the guy that we're going to interview next week and I actually really enjoyed his reading. I'm trying to find his name so you can see if there are any audio books by him.

What's the name of the book? The name of the book is King's warrior. Let me, I have an email from him. His name is Benjamin Fife. F I F E so you'll have to see if there are any audio books by him. And that way you can maybe listen to one before he comes on five F I F E audio books narrated by 

Hillary: Benjamin Fife, Mr.

Darcy's dragon that looks like fun. The series is Jane Austin's dragons and it looks like he's the narrator. Well, for at least a couple of them, there's not. Seriously 

Kahle: prejudice variation. 

Hillary: Listen to it. I'm excited. 

Kahle: I am going to show my wife, the, 

Charity: he looks like he's going to be fun. That's why I was like, you guys have to be 

Hillary: there.

He seems really interesting. But if he's any good, once you've read a book, you care about some part of it's always with you Lee. The more I I'm friends with the lady who runs the storytelling thing at Thanksgiving 0.0, fun and Utah. And if you said it might be a good person to have out there, he's basically just a storyteller.


Charity: Yeah. I've enjoyed, I've enjoyed his style. He puts a little music in it and he doesn't. Try to part with 

Hillary: special effects and music and stuff. I've heard 

Charity: it done well, and I've heard it not done well. So if it's done well so that it doesn't make me go, wait, what? Then it's okay. And, uh, and, and I'm okay with his, but what I liked is there are a lot of people and he changes his voice just slightly so that, you know, it's a different person, but he's not trying too hard to make everybody sound, you know, so it's not.

It flows very nicely. Okay. 

Hillary: Has a nice voice.

I like 

Charity: his voice. I could listen to him. Yeah. It was very easy. He made this book come alive. So next week we will interview Benjamin Fife. And I'm really looking forward to that. If. You have any questions? Feel free to email me@charitydotbradfordatgmail.com. Also, we would love for you to like our Facebook group.

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