37 February Music Challenge


Charity: [00:00:00] This is Loose Leaf a multi-author podcast journal, where we talk about goals, the ups and downs of writing, and where we try to warn you off of our greatest pitfalls. And now for a few announcements. We want to apologize for our botched Facebook live. Last Saturday, we attempted to do our music challenge for February on Facebook and I experienced a couple of technical difficulties.

Some, which might have been due to the fact that I rolled out of bed and tried to do it first thing, but we will try again in March and next time we will use zoom, which I am familiar with. So watch our Facebook page for links to that for the date and time. As soon as we get it scheduled, you can find us@facebook.com backslash loose leaf podcast.

From there, you can also find our private group, the leaf pile rider support. We have lesson units. I think they're called guides now on various writing topics. And we would love for you to come and ask your questions and let us help you find some answers. If nothing else, we would love to be your cheerleaders and support you along your own writing journey.

This week. We also announced the winners for our February giveaway. Naomi and crystal have been contacted as the winners have to print copies of hooked by Les Edgerton. We recorded this podcast Saturday, like I said, in lieu of our live event. And what you won't hear on the podcast is we listened to the selected piece of music together.

And then we listened to it the second time and wrote. Together as well. This podcast we'll jump in right after we finished that with our discussion and the reading of what we came up with when listening to the music. The music selection for February was Beethoven's romance. Number two as performed by Renada Kappa con.

I'm not sure if I said that. Right? However, you can find that particular piece of music in our playlist, on our YouTube channel. Simply go and search for loose leaf author podcast, and then click on playlist. Okay. Let's get to the podcast. 

Kahle: [00:02:25] Welcome to the loose-leaf author podcast. I'm Kelvin Bossi 

Hillary: [00:02:30] I'm Hillary Sperry and I'm charity 


Kahle: [00:02:36] We are going to be going over the Friday or February, um, music writing challenge. Um, Hillary, do you want to tell us about what our, uh, song was? 

Hillary: [00:02:50] Yeah, I picked it. Um, this was my month. I was all excited. Um, it's not the end of February. We really were on top of it.

Kahle: [00:03:01] We're just getting, we're just ready for Matt for a fee for marches. So 

Hillary: [00:03:06] that's right. No. So this one, um, basically it's February. So I mean, it's the month of romance and I was just looking at music. I wanted something long. I wanted something classical and I wanted something that reflected romance. And I found this one and I, when I found a bunch of them, honestly, I'm just going through them.

I really liked this one. It was really pretty, I love violence, violence are kinda my thing. And, um, so it was really fun to hear this and multiple versions, the version I chose, uh, How to support orchestra with it. And I just really enjoyed it. I was excited to see what we could do with it. Um, one of the things that I thought was going to be tricky was it kind of has a cycle to the song, you know, it comes through and repeats the same, uh, feeling.

I don't know what the correct classical music terms are, but. Themes. Thank you. Yeah. So it repeats those themes a couple of times, I think three times actually on the song vote, according to what I hear. And I thought that was going to be interesting, a little bit tricky to use, but as I also knew that as I'm, as I'm writing to these, I don't necessarily stick exactly with it as it goes.

A lot of the time I'll be listed again as the feeling of the music changes. I'll start writing different a little bit, but mostly. It's I get like 200 words, 250, if I'm really fast. Um, and so it's, it's just a little bit, you kind of just have to go with what you're doing anyway and just let that music feed it.

So that's our song. It's romance number two by Beethoven. And we had a fun time this morning writing to that. 

Kahle: [00:04:47] I, I had to read an intro for this song. This month for the classical music. So, uh, I'll give a little historical background. 

Hillary: [00:04:56] I'm excited. I love it. That happened. 

Kahle: [00:05:01] So the musical moniker known as a romance began in 14th century, France and Spain as a lengthy lyric poem about a historical event or subject the nature of the form change.

Does it move to cross to Europe, such that in the 18th century? Austria and Germany, the term romance was used for a short instrumental piece over the span of five years. Beethoven experimented with the concept and wrote to two romances for violin and orchestra. One in G major. And this one in F major, the first was the second was written first in 1798.

Then in 1803, he wrote and published romance. Number one, looking back through his notes. A few years later published the second romance. So, 

Hillary: [00:05:47] Oh, I wondered why that was the case. Cause I, I had seen that that number two is published first or I read about it somewhere and I was curious why he would do number two and then later come back with number one.

So it was, it was actually from his notes. Maybe he was just like prepping for it. And this was the pre 

Kahle: [00:06:05] cool, uh, people, people talk about that. The, uh, the movement, since they are, since the romance one and two are so similar, like they're both violin and orchestra. Um, they think that it was originally the second movement of a concerto of a different concerto that he was writing.

Um, and he decided to scrap it and go with a different set of material and then came back later and was like, I can, I can make this work and, you know, edit it and released it, us the, uh, chronic pain logical number one becomes piece number two because it was published afterward. 

Charity: [00:06:45] So that's yeah. That's cool.

It's like, like authors who write a series and then go, Hey, I need a pre-cal , 

Kahle: [00:06:54] here's my material, 

Charity: [00:06:58] all the stuff I cut from the series, but I want to keep 

Hillary: [00:07:00] it.

Kahle: [00:07:04] Yeah, not that that's like important information for any of you to know, but. It's cool. It's information we have. So, yeah, 

Charity: [00:07:12] I think it's awesome. 

Hillary: [00:07:13] So you're going to get it.  

Kahle: [00:07:17] thanks for the, uh, thanks for the copy reading practice. 

Charity: [00:07:22] Well, I think it was really cool this time that we did it together. Like in the past we've done these, we've done it on her own, email them to each other and then, you know, got on for the podcast.

But before we started recording, we actually listened to it together. And then we wrote together and I really enjoyed that. I thought that was. Kind of a nice little jump into the weekend here and, and write together. But I know kale, you kept saying mine went like a totally different direction than maybe what you're thinking.

So did you want to start? And 

Kahle: [00:07:51] I will happily happily read first. Um, okay. I don't have a title for this. I normally think of the title afterward. And since we're just writing like this today, and I apologize, you can hear us in the background.

All right, here we go.

Hillary: [00:08:19] Ours are a little rough 

Charity: [00:08:20] too. 

Kahle: [00:08:22] I got nervous going. This is weird. 

Hillary: [00:08:25] No, it's definitely different than usual. Like it's more live 

Charity: [00:08:29] like, okay, this is, this is happening. 

Hillary: [00:08:32] As we do, then I do usually go back and like, just touch things in a little bit. You know, I use this five times that sentence. 

Kahle: [00:08:41] All right, well, here it goes.

Here. It goes. Stella walked across the hall, balancing three piping hot plates on her padded left arm. The otherly gentlemen at the table. She approached subdued their conversation and politely grinned at each at her. She placed a dish down for each of them. They nodded courteously, but offered no words of thanks.

Enjoy your dinner, SIRS. She bowed at turned and walked away. The calm Lincoln. Her ear, bud began to buzz with Michael's voice. We can't even get an audio confirm that it's them, they're being too safe. I've never known a hive to be so prepared for our techniques. Still a kept walking, not acknowledging Michael's commentary.

She hadn't been discovered yet. And that was good. He was right though, of all the hives she'd uncovered, none had ever anticipated their methods. So precisely was she losing her touch? Which you becoming too. Well-known. Did they recognize her? No, she'd never worn this discussion before the prosthetics were undetectable, even by the high fidelity face scanner.

And Michael's bunker to tell by the naked eye would be preposterous, something else that set them off. But what. Stella stood with her back to the noisy kitchen. When the clanging of pots and pans, boiling soups and sauces, and an unexpected wash of a cane rushed into her senses. She dropped a low to the ground in a squat and kicked back, but the man left to the side, just out of reach of her kick.

His cane still struck the wall, uh, struck the wall, the steel freezer next to them finally showing their true colors. Now it was go time. The old man raised his cane to a lunch position and reared back, preparing to strike. Stella thrust one hand onto the ground and went into her pocket. Her left hand turned to shadow as it hit the ground and started, um, there's a better adjective to put there, but there is none right now.

Um, it's in my head, but I can't okay. Read it. Her left hand hit the, her left hand, turn to shadow as it hit the ground and started toward the old man's feet. He reeled backward frustrating the form of his prepared lunch. His eyes opened wide and his feet turned to a vapor that's split into different directions and could be heard buzzing softly under the noise of the rest of the kitchen.

Stella looked closer and saw the small flies, quickly reform under reformed feet under the form of the rest of the man, her hand retreated. And she pulled the ion taser from her pocket. She pointed and shot.

Charity: [00:11:19] That is so 

Hillary: [00:11:20] awesome. That is very 

Charity: [00:11:23] cool. 

Kahle: [00:11:24] I have no idea what that is.

I have no idea what that is, but that's what I thought of while it was 

Charity: [00:11:39] so cool.

So you could probably tell us what it was in the music that sent you down that. That path, because that's really, like you said, that's really different. I love 

Kahle: [00:11:54] it. So when I, when I listened to it initially when, um, when Hillary sent it before I realized I had to write it, I got one listen in and I was like, okay, cool.

I'm going to, I'm going to write this either tomorrow or in the next couple of days. And then later that day I found out that I had to write it. And so I was like listening to it like a hundred times. Um, But the image that I got in my head was of like a, I don't know, not Ratatouille, but if you just think of that kind of setting, like a really fine dining establishment, and I was like, okay, so the waiter or waitress, and that's pretty much all I had.

I was like, something is going on with the waiter waitress and they are. Going to do something, something unexpected is going to happen. And so that's what I, that's all the notes that I had. That's all the thought that I really gave to it. So 

Charity: [00:12:56] I love it. 

Hillary: [00:12:58] I actually feel like sometimes I do better when I don't give it a lot of thought.

Like when I make a lot of notes, like I've listened to this one a few times because I kept thinking, well, one, I had to find it. And then I kept thinking, well, I'm going to do this now. And so I listened to it and I wouldn't have time because I'd get, I'd start listening to all the other classes for music.

So it never did worked out. Then I have a lot of notes and honestly, I've gone through like four different stories in the process of trying of what I was thinking, because I forget what I was thinking before, but, um, I like when I like this time, I just have a lot more notes because I was thinking about it more.

And, um, in previous versions it's like, I'll just be like, Oh, here's the swell. This is where the hard part of the story is, Oh, here's this, you know, you just kind of go with it. And then when it's time to write, you just write and it's kind of fun. That turned out really good. 

Kahle: [00:13:57] Well, let's hear what your yours, yeah.

Hillary: [00:14:01] All right background before or after 

Charity: [00:14:05] whatever you feel comfortable with. 

Hillary: [00:14:08] We'll just start with the story that feels like the right thing to do. Yes. Okay. Ken swept the floor around the spindle. Careful not to lose any of the golden strands that lay on the floor around the instrument, Clara lay on the bed in the corner, her features relaxed and sleep.

She was so beautiful when he, when he cleaned around her, we'd have to be careful that he didn't try to carry her golden strands away with. Wow. That's a lot of gold. Like I said, um, it was several hours before she woke. The gold was piled in the spindle text carefully in the corner. Clara. How are you? How are you feeling?

I'm fine. Tired. She smiled. Her fingers sparked her fingers sparked as she examined the spindle. It happened every time her magic seemed to wake at the size of that. Ken wanted to reach out and calm the magic. It looked painful. He didn't know how she would ever continue this way. He stood coming closer, just wanting to touch her to be near.

Of course, she'd never approved the door of the tower room creaked and Ken cast himself behind it with no magic of his own. All he could do was watch and try not to be noticed as the King entered. He carried a robe Crested in jewels and find golden threads likely the very ones she'd woven across the next line and shoulders, Clara gasped, and ran to him, embracing him as she would never do for Ken the King kissed her lightly and draped the rope around her shoulders.

When she wore the beautiful drape, it looked as if a canister of treasure had been spilled across her. She was stunning. Of course. Can you have beautiful us even without the finery and jewels? He watched from behind us. Wouldn't shield is the King, turned her around and then stopped to inspect his treasure.

You've done another fine job. I would choose you for my queen. If you can provide this wealth for my kingdom can see. I like it better with no notes, but that's the extent that. Um, I think the reason I like it better with no notes is because it really can be a complete story. Whereas now it's like, I have this entire story plotted.

Kahle: [00:16:02] That's 

Charity: [00:16:03] awesome. 

Hillary: [00:16:04] So basically the I, what I was headed towards I'm waffling a little bit, but I want to do a Rumpelstiltskin retelling where she's in love with Rumpelstiltskin. Um, and she's doing this the whole storyline, I dunno, but like, I could see, like the whole firstborn child thing is taken away. I don't know if he's the King and he's trying to help her.

And this version and Rumpelstiltskin is like a, a, um, he's like a servant. And sounds like it's a guard. No, he's well, okay. He really he's a servant. Yeah. And where I was going with, it was, she's kind of a witch queen person, whatever girl, and she's been in prison. So she's making the gold and, um, Ken Rumpelstiltskin is the servant and he's cleaning up after everyone.

She doesn't actually know him. She knows that he has fallen in love with her, but, and basically this is just the beginning of the story. Almost like the prequel as it work. That's awesome. Eventually I love it. The King she's doing this so she can be a queen. She really wants power more than anything. And as most, which is seeming to do and, um, 

Charity: [00:17:17] So she's 

Hillary: [00:17:18] not, she is going to stay with the cane, but yeah, but Ken is in love with her.

And so when she has a kid, the whole idea is he kind of takes the kid, but he's raising this child because she's not being a good mother and she's taking care of him. She ends up cursing, Ken. So he stays, you know, she's like, you can't be in love with me. You're going to stay like this forever. And, um, so then he raises the daughter.

But then is able to fall in love with the daughter. And that's where the actual rebel skin story comes in. I think, wow. That is fascinating. Really fun if I could get into it and like, really? Yeah, 

Kahle: [00:17:57] totally. 

Hillary: [00:17:59] And I want her to teach Ken. I want her to teach him how to spend goals. That's her whole thing. Like, she's like, okay, I have to keep doing this.

So then it'll work. So I'm going to teach you how to do it so you can make the gold while I go. Gala amount with the guy I 


Charity: [00:18:12] like. Yeah. So that's, I 

Hillary: [00:18:14] love it. You totally have to ride it. Notes are better than my story. 

Charity: [00:18:20] Now you have to write it.

Hillary: [00:18:24] I have several, uh, fairy tale stories. I want to write, but fairy tale stories are kind of done right now. I feel like they still happen. We still like them, but they're not as popular as they used to be. Yeah. So you ride them now. 

Charity: [00:18:35] So when they come back, you're ready. Because they will come back. They always true.

Hillary: [00:18:42] We cycle just like the themes of the music. 

Charity: [00:18:44] Yes, exactly. 

Kahle: [00:18:48] Absolutely. 

Hillary: [00:18:50] All 

Charity: [00:18:50] right, charity. All right. Well, I didn't have any idea of anything going into this this morning. I actually, I guess that's a lie. I thought I would try to write the song that I need for this other story idea, but that's not what happened.

So, um, Just listening to it. I went down a whole new path who knows what this is saying about me, but we'll see. And as I also do not have a title. The wind was gentle at first, causing a little leaf to wiggle and sway on it's tenuous hold to the tree. But then the wind was joined by rain weakening, its grip.

Even more. He held on tight, not even talking to his neighbors until the sun returned. That was a rough night. He murmured against the other leaves. Yes. Someone replied soon. We'll let go and start our adventure. Another said adventure. A new trembling fear Rose in his veins. It'll be the words cut off abruptly.

As a strong Gale ripped through the branches. He tried to keep hold of the branch, but the force of the breeze tore him free. Flinging him away from his mother tree. He rode the breeze out over a meadow full of drooping and drying flowers, the rain of the night before not quite reviving them. For a moment.

He stared up into the blue sky clouds of white drifting by then he flipped and spun the colors of the world flashing and changing to blue in a series of scenes too quick for him to grasp. The wind slowed. He drifted toward the ground where another draft caught him, jerking him in a new direction. Over the riverbank.

He went the gurgling Brook tumbled over small stones and large bubbling talking, laughing at him as he traveled along its course, the water grew louder, more boisterous in its speed. A surge of energy, lifted him several feet higher before throwing him out and over the falls water dampened, his body strong winds, buffeted him back and forth.

He couldn't focus on anything, but the spray and that's as far as I got 

Kahle: [00:21:00] that's cool.

So that gives me a lot of ideas and I'm like, Tie-ins to other things. 

Hillary: [00:21:16] It depends practice of just being free, you know, just letting your writing do it ever went. And, um, I don't know. When I, when I started listening to the song, that's kind of how it felt was like the whole beginning of that piece is so much more emotional than anything else.

It doesn't paint as many pictures as some, it's just kind of like this free 

Charity: [00:21:37] flowing. It is. It's more emotion than scenes that come to mind. At least that was for me. And, uh, like my idea, I was really hoping I had the whole short story. So I think another 200 words, I should be able to wrap that up. So it'd be almost more so, you know, basically he'll end up in a neighborhood, fall to the ground and he'll get wrapped up into at least pile

Yeah. I've been thinking a lot about the whole author imposter and the, the way our minds. So for me, that was like the way my mind is blown and shifted. And you know, you spin so fast. Sometimes you can't focus. And

Hillary: [00:22:32] I feel like the author imposter thing is not where my mind is these days I've, uh, I dunno. I feel like I'm putting so much time into just doing that. Um, it's not, I don't, I know I'm not like the greatest, I know I have a long way to go, but it doesn't feel like that the, the imposter syndrome thing right now, it's just, um, it's just plugging along.

That's where we are really. I'm sorry, I quote this last week. Um, the, I don't remember who it was, but I'd have to look it up, but it was something along the lines of, you know, um, half of the industry is all luck and half of it is just us authors plugging along. So it's just like, here we go. I'm just plugging along.

Maybe someday we'll find me. 

Charity: [00:23:22] We'll do we want to set some goals? 

Kahle: [00:23:25] Um, I was gonna ask, uh, if I could take a minute to comment, to comment on the author imposter. Um, I recently finished, uh, listening to the first three books of Ursula, Kayla Gwynn's earth, sea series. And have you read those ever?

Hillary: [00:23:49] It sounds familiar, but I don't know if I've read them maybe.

Kahle: [00:23:53] Okay. The first one is really not like anything. I usually listen to. Um, I don't want to say it is not bad writing at all. It's just, it's not the type of like, it's not like reading. A movie, like so many books are now. And I mean, that's just fantasy has gone that direction. So intensely, like Brandon Sanderson books are reading an emotional pile of, ah, it's so heavy and Ursula.

Kayla Gwynn's first book in the earth. Sea series is a lot more subdued. It's it's a tale. It literally feels like, uh, the way you would imagine an old barn telling a story. Like he's not going to break off into all these multiple points of view. It's just what happens to this character. Um, the second book gets into the head of a character who is not the main character from the first book and halfway through introduces the main character from the first book and the adventure proceeds from there.

And the third book is from the point of view of another character and his interaction with the main character from the first book. But ultimately all of it is telling the story of, of his, his name is Sparrow Hawk and where the third book ends, everything that happened to built up to it. And they're short, they're short books, but I found myself just as emotionally invested in this, the story of Sparrow Hawk.

As I did with any buddy that I'm reading of Brandon Sanderson, who I've like sunk well over a hundred hours of time, just listening to, you know, I, I listened to those three books in half the time of the first book of the Stormlight archive. The, it just, it showed me that simplicity has a place in fantasy.

Um, it doesn't have to be all this crazy intense stuff. And so I still think I'm, I I'm looking for a good middle ground where I can have a more involved story, but that it got me writing. Um, it gave me a lot of 

Charity: [00:26:38] maybe freedom to do what you want to do. 

Kahle: [00:26:41] Yeah, cause I don't want to say motivation. I feel like the motivation has been there.

It's just been hampered so much, but I got writing and I wrote the most awkward scene. I have ever even thought I would write in my life.

I started. Yeah, we don't have so, so it sounds 

Charity: [00:27:05] like you've put yourself in this. Box of expectations and reading that series helped you at least open the lid on that box? 

Kahle: [00:27:13] Yes, it was so good. And it was so many fewer words, you know, I almost cried at the end of the third book, like the book ended and it was doing like the little kind of postlude to, you know, climax and then right about here.

I was like, This book is also,

and the characters is so good. Like it's, it's just so simple and good. I so highly recommend if you have not spent, if you have not spent a few hours reading through at least the first three books. 

Hillary: [00:27:56] So what are the books called? They're 

Kahle: [00:27:58] called earth sea. 

Hillary: [00:28:00] So, is it tales from earth, sea, or is there a different hails 

Kahle: [00:28:04] from earth?

Sea is the fifth book. Um, and it's a series of short stories that expand the world, um, that expand all of the different islands of earth, sea and give you perspectives of different characters. Um, but it follows GED who was Sparrow Hawk magic. Has a power in true names. So if you know the true name of something in the old speech, then you can have power over it.

Charity: [00:28:39] Hmm. That's where Patrick, Rothfuss got his idea, the name of the window. 

Kahle: [00:28:45] They got inspired maybe from the same source material or maybe, yeah. Yeah. 

Charity: [00:28:51] That's cool. But 

Hillary: [00:28:53] these were wizard of earth, sea, and the tunes of 

Kahle: [00:28:55] optom. Yeah. Yeah, the teams have asked you on is the second book, which I heard  on. And I was like, actually, well, and then, and then there's an Island called, there's an Island called Hort, H O R T in earth, sea.

And that's the name of a God for my D and D campaign. And I was like, I've never read these books before. Cow's thing is nothing is original and that's okay. And that's totally okay. It's totally. Okay. So, 

Charity: [00:29:27] well, yeah. So do we want to talk about bowls real quick so that when you, 

Hillary: [00:29:32] I have goals, I am this week, I am going to finish, uh, one of my Christmas novellas and start plotting or better plotting on my motorcycle 

Charity: [00:29:45] from it.

Nice. Nice. Well, Michael is to continue drafting or actually really start drafting a fully written chapter one, start drafting a book two in my wishful hearts collection. And, uh, so my 

Hillary: [00:30:00] news, the book is book one is great. Yeah. 

Charity: [00:30:04] I put them all up. I've started the pre-order process. So it has to happen this year.

It will happen because according to Amazon, they are coming out on certain dates. You know, starting in July to the end of the 

Hillary: [00:30:16] year. So points to anyone who knows what those dates are. Nobody yet

well, I haven't, I 

Charity: [00:30:25] haven't hit submit yet, so they're still in draft, uh, because I think it gives me wiggle room to change them a little bit until I hit. So I probably won't hit, um, Submit on the first one until the end of March. So that gives me a month to see if I can at least knock out one more book.

Cause if I have two of them done, I know I can do it. I'm gonna have you talk to you about that 

Hillary: [00:30:51] process because that would be cool to set 

Charity: [00:30:53] up for things. Yeah. Okay. Kyle, how about 

Kahle: [00:30:56] you? Uh, well, I was able to write, uh, in the, in the interim between our last, uh, In-person podcast. I wrote five episodes of my classical music stuff.

So getting, getting those recorded as a goal for this week, um, then I wrote about 600 words in my NaNoWriMo book for, uh, for British, gave him his, a little bit of his origin story fleshed out and. Um, goals for this week are to continue that I just want to get 500 words. Honestly, if I can get 500 words on one day during the week right now, that's great.

I'd be happy to keep that project slowly crawling forward. So 

Charity: [00:31:51] yeah, because before you know, it it'll be done, you'll be like, Oh, how did that happen? Five words at a time. Cool. Any big advice you want to end on that you have to share with our listeners? .

Charity Bradford. 

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