22 End of Week 1 of Nano Blogcast
Charity: This is loosely a multi-author podcast journal, where we talk about goals, the ups and downs of writing and where we try to warn you off of our greatest pitfalls. We'll keep it short because you don't have much time and we'd rather be writing. So how has nano been treating you?
Kahle: Oh, I have been nano has been treating me fine.
I have been treating nano like a
Charity: ugly stepsister,
Kahle: like that neighbors that I just really don't want to talk to. Yeah,
no, it's, it's been, it's been pretty rough week. Um,
Charity: yeah, me too. I
Kahle: thought, I thought after the, you know, finishing a song every. Nearly every day, it would be an easier transition and listening back to our last conversation. Um, I clearly thought it was going to be easier, but I've had two brutal realizations.
One that I already knew. It just is even more apparent to me now that you know, I have never written anything past 11 pages long before. And even though I can come up with all these ideas of things, I want to happen, like what is happening, what the question I walked away with after, after trying to write yesterday and trying desperately to find something to write today, um, I've just realized that I don't really have a plot.
And so. You know, my, the story and the through line in here in my brain was enough of a plot, but I'm like, but this is just information for anybody else. Like I can see the movie, I can see the scenes. I know why they're important, but they're, they're not important outside of the context of something happening in there being a goal that's being worked on.
Charity: Like, especially since it's fantasy.
Kahle: Yeah. Like, because to me, the goal is getting him to the place that it needs to be at the end, but why does he need to be there? Why does he choose to go there?
Charity: Hmm. So what do you think will help? I mean, I guess obviously finding that plot in the main. Reason that they're undertaking this journey is what will help you continue writing.
But how are you going to do that? Do you have any ideas?
Kahle: Um, I'm sorry, can you ask me that one more time so I can answer
Charity: it. Do you have any idea how well you are going to find your plot?
Kahle: Um, well, As we've discussed before my, my writing and sketching of ideas all happens in a bunch of different places.
And so under my research tab in Scrivener, I have just opened up a beat sheet and I'm just typing out all of my beats now so that they are like really crisp and easy to see. And from that I've started to thread together. A little of what's actually what type of story this is going to be. I have a bunch of scenes that I've organized, but I still need to figure out what's connecting all of them.
Charity: Right. What the main quest is, because it seems like you have a good grasp on here's their individual growth arc, but what's the one thing that's pulling all of them through, right?
Kahle: Yes. Yes. And I think I've yeah, yeah, yeah. Something else I'm struggling with in that is the. So the elves, the elves are an immortal race, a near immortal race, not completely immortal, but a near immortal race that can multiply.
I don't think I talked to you guys about cloud talkers yet.
Charity: No, we haven't heard about
Kahle: them. Yeah, because I hadn't heard about them until I first sat down on the first day of nano and wrote and figured out, Oh, Hey, there's this whole other thing inside my world. That just happened. That's
Charity: cool. I love when that happens though.
Especially if it really makes the story that much
Kahle: richer. Sure. Yes. So much better. It's really cool. Um, yeah.
Charity: That's cool. Cloud talkers.
Kahle: Yeah. I don't know what they're actually called, but that's, everyone's like term for them. So cool. What I was able to write this week was an epilogue to the story that, that connect it to the other story that I'm wanting to be told since this is a side story, I was like, what would be a good way to introduce this?
Cause it's not like. I'm going to finish this book and release it. Right. Because it contains a lot of secrets about
Kahle: The next one. Yeah, exactly. But, um, if I were to release it, I wanted a way to tie it in. And since I've developed those characters better in my head, I was like, well, I'm going to start with this guy and put him in this situation.
And see what happens. And then all of a sudden he's meeting with a cloud talker and you're like, Oh, all right. And I could tell you more later, but it's getting fun. So yeah,
Charity: I love that because it's like, seriously, my husband doesn't understand. He's just like, What do you, what do you mean you? This thing just happened you're you're in charge.
I'm like, no, no, I'm not. And obviously you're not either of cloud Tuckers have just become a thing and you're like, cool. That's awesome.
Kahle: It's it's been, um, every time that I've sat down to write, I have created something new right now. I'm just. Most of what I've been able to write so far though, I finished the epilogue, um, wait, epilogue.
Charity: So epilogue comes at the end. Prologue comes at the beginning.
Kahle: Definitely meant prologue.
Charity: I thought, well, Hey, maybe that's going
Kahle: with it. Sorry. Okay. So definitely meant prologue.
Charity: Um, So that's good. So even though maybe the word count isn't high, every time you've sat down to work on it, you have, like you said, created something new, something that yes.
Move this story forward. So that's good. That means nano is working. I'm ready. Really? Not all about the word count and that's not just because my word count is, uh, Probably less than yours right now.
Kahle: I don't know about that.
Charity: Well, let's say I'm only half of where we should be.
Kahle: Okay. Well, I'm probably about an eighth of where we should
Charity: be, but yeah, cause I've, I've really struggled to, and, and I don't know, maybe this is something.
That's affecting you as well, since you just had a full month of being creative and doing those song a day, maybe you're experiencing the same thing. I am. I mean, I was working so hard on those other two stories, and then I basically had four days between finishing and then starting nano. And so my brain is just tired and it just needs a break and maybe yours needs a break too.
So that's part of why I keep telling myself. It's okay. I'm sitting down as well. Yesterday was the first day I didn't write, but I've written at least 300 words a day. And that is like nowhere near what I'm supposed to be doing. I'm just finding my brain doesn't want to latch on to any idea. So I sat down and it is so sad.
Kale. I have seriously. Four novels right now that have over 30,000 words, two of them have over 40,000 words already in them. So they're half done. I mean, if I'm aiming for 75 words on most of those they're halfway done, I just need to sit down and finish it. But none of them have my interest right now.
And I hate to work on something when I'm not. In that mind frame, because I just don't feel like the emotions end up in the story. Um, and then I sat and I was like, I have another. I think it was like eight other stories started we're ahead at least 5,000 words. So I have all these crazy story ideas and none of them are saying right to me.
And I hate that feeling because that's what I like about writing is when I'm in this world and I just want to sit down and, you know, spew it onto the page and it's not happened this first week of nano and, uh, And I have to keep telling myself that's okay. Okay. Eventually something will catch my interest.
I just hope it's soon.
Kahle: I hope that for you as well, that's really, that's really a stressful place to be. Yeah.
Charity: Today I sat down and I said, okay, out of these that are half done, which one needs to be completed first. And I chose Taulia's. Book three, because it's been three years since book two came out. So book three is way overdue.
And I actually took chapter one to writers group last night. It was good because the one person that showed up has not read the other two books. And so I was able to say, great, you need to tell me where you're lost because even the people who read the first two books, Are not going to remember a lot of stuff, so I need to make sure I'm doing enough recap without slowing the story down.
So I'm hoping that'll help me get back into it and just actually wrote a prologue this morning, too. That's what my 300 words were. Cause she's like, I don't know what's going on. And I'm like, Oh, I should probably have a prologue about what's what's driving this part of the story. And, uh, it's basically where the.
The bad guy finds and is getting ready to open the demon pit on her. Homeworld so I was like, okay, there's
Kahle: something. Yeah. Oh yeah,
Charity: yeah, yeah, yeah. This book, I don't want to do it kale. That's why I have it. I just don't want to do, you know, if you look at the story arc in a book. In my four book series, we are going up to the climax.
We're about to hit the darkest of dark moments. And I just have like a dope what to do it. Basically. I'm going to burn her world down literally and figuratively.
Kahle: Oh man.
Charity: Oh, well. And then book four will be the recovery. Resolution of the wholesome hot mess, but
Kahle: awesome, man, what I wanted to ask you was in the past, when this has been the case, when you've had, I mean, you've had these story ideas sitting around for a while and probably.
Since you have eight of them that are at 5,000 words, those eight were because you were less interested in working on those other ones that have more words. Yes. So what have you done in the past that has gotten you to get those 40,000 and 30,000 word counts? Like
Charity: it really is reaching a point where I have to say, this is the career that I'm choosing.
Okay. And I make myself sit down and I start to just put really crummy words on the page, because for me, the hardest part is getting that draft. I love to go back and fix it and add the details and make improvements. That to me is so much easier. Um, but getting something on the page is what's hard and those eight ideas.
The four half completed novels are science fiction. The eight ideas are all romance. And so those are only going to beat 30 to 40,000 words. And so those are easier for me to just sit down and make myself do it. But with the science fiction, I really like to just get lost in the world. And I will, you know, like right now my, my decision is sit down, do something.
And if you sit down and do something every day, eventually your brain goes, Oh, we're doing this. And that's, that's how it's worked for me in the past. And, and I'll be honest, November and December are always the worst writing months because there's so much going on. There is so
Kahle: much going on.
Charity: Yeah. And I mean, we're barely even rolling into that, but it's.
It's coming. And I think my brain knows it's coming and it's tired from the last two months. And it's like, you know, take a break, just enjoy it. But I'm like, You know, so I don't know if I'll get 50,000 words and Hillary would totally fuss at me for saying that she'd be like, that's a negative thinking, like it's being realistic and I'm okay with that.
I just want to get as much as I can, whatever that may look like. I believe in you and I believe in you, you're going to get it.
And I think that's just really, that's why I wanted to meet today. I was like, I know Hillary can't be here, but I was like, kill. We can sit and talk and we can at least say, okay, we haven't given up yet. We're nearing the end of week one, but we can still do it.
Kahle: Yes. I've uh, I've got, uh, a built-in some, well, okay.
Other than having to report to you. You and Hillary, my progress, I have built in one more, uh, accountability, accountability structure. Um, a girl that I used to work with in college got back from her mission and just texted me out of the blue this week and was like, Oh my goodness. How are you? Do you still live up in Utah?
And I'm like, Oh no, I moved to Arkansas. And she's like, Oh, okay, okay. Right on. But, um, I was sweet. I was asking her, well, what's, what's your, what's your plans and all that. And, uh, she wants to go back to the school that we were at. And then she wants to transfer to another university and get her English degree and focus on like editing.
She wants to be an editor. And I was like, well, if you ever want like, Practice. I know two people, I know two people who are, who are, uh, full-time authors and like they would, they would know people who you could edit for if you just wanted practice or whatever, which is like, Oh, well, I dunno. I dunno. And I was like, well, if you really aren't sure that you want to do that right now.
I am writing something for the first time ever. And if you really want a baptism by fire, I'll send you a couple of things this weekend and you can look at them and she's right. It's a deal. So I'll give her some feedback on what I think her editing is like editing style, how I think it is. And then, uh, She'll give me some feedback on writing, so
Charity: it's okay.
If you cry kale, it's okay. If you cry. I know I've done it many times. You have a good cry and then the next day you go, okay. Now I get to make it better. Well, that's pretty much all I have. I don't, I don't really have anything. I'm just, I just, I feel like. I feel like I'm already in the middle of November and it's only November 6th and normally the middle of the month is where it gets sludgy out of like, Oh no, I'm already there.
So you just have to, I guess that's what I would ask you. And Hillary to do for me is just keep poking me and say, Keep writing something every day, because in the past I have felt this way and just went, eh, whatever, and just quit.
I'll poke you. You can poke me and say, keep writing,
Kahle: keep writing.
Charity: Start writing.
Rosie. Stop. I don't know if you could
probably, and I don't know how to edit that out. So
Kahle: that's all good to
Charity: see your factors anyway. Um,